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Tux – Suit difference: What are they?

Tux – suit difference: 7 out of every 10 customer come to us claiming they need a suit, one that goes with a bow tie, and much as it is acceptable to accompany a suit with a bowtie, it turned out to be a tux that they actually need. So, what is the difference here? And is there really that many differences between them that we must have two separate pieces for different occasions?

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Since we’ve actually answered it in several other blog posts, but have never dedicated an article completely to answering this question, today we’re going to talk about the physical, the non-tangible differences, and the exceptions.

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1/ Tux – Suit Difference: The Intangibles

It’s important to note that, more than just the apparent physical differences, a tuxedo sends a different message than a suit does. Some people tend to wear t-shirts and jeans most of the time and some rarely change out of their sweats. Thus,  it would seem at first that, for any of us who rarely ever dress up, wearing a suit would send just as strong a message as a tuxedo because it’s equally rare.  But it isn’t always the case.

Suits are common ensembles, if not an obligatory outfit for daily work, or as often referred to: a societal norm. On the contrary, the main point of a tux is more than just to dress up. It is about commemorating special occasions, so special you would wear something extraordinary, and otherwise would not elsewhere. That makes the biggest difference, and explains why tux tops the list of clothing choice in such occasions as weddings. You can go to a grocery store picking food for dinner after work in a suit, not a tux. Similarly, you can wear suits to your wedding, that is if you wish to blend in with every other attendees. There is normally no problem to that, just make sure they know you are the groom, the main celebrity of the day.

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2/ Tux – Suit Difference: The Physical

In terms of physical differences, traditionally tuxedos have satin facing on the lapels. Additionally, it sometimes appear on buttons, pocket trim, and a satin side stripe down the leg of the trousers.  Suits don’t incorporate any satin and usually have either plastic or same-fabric-as-the-coat buttons.  Modern tuxedo options have minimized satin to a thin trim on the lapels and a thin bead down the leg. Eventually, the primary difference between the two all boils down to tuxes having satin and suits dont. Of course, to every rule there are exceptions.

Other physical differences like appropriate accessories generally only come into play when talking about traditional black tie standards, although for most modern tuxedo functions like proms and weddings, the lines between what to wear with a tuxedo vs. suit have been blurred. Tuxedos are historically only to be worn with bow ties, cummerbunds or waistcoats , since they complement the shiny satin. It’s common, though increasingly less so, to wear long ties and high stance vests with tuxedos. This is a result of the fact that it is a traditional look, only appropriate with suits.

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3/ The Exceptions

Talking about exceptions, there are now some modern satin-less tuxedo options exists in a few styles made primarily to cater to a growing demand in the wedding market.  Tuxedo lines make nearly identical tuxedos, but in different colors.  While the black, steel grey, and heather grey tuxedos do incorporate satin, the tan and slate blue do not.  Because they are part of a larger line of identical tuxedos, these are still considered tuxedos and are very popular options for both proms and daytime weddings. However, most of the time guests still opt for tailoring to ensure they look their best in the big day. This is because they don’t tailor the tuxes to any specific or particular measurements.

 

If you have got either a tux or a suit already, check this post out for more useful tips: http://www.tailormadesuits.co.nz/shirt-tie-suit-combination-2/

Click here for our tuxedo options for suit hire. For made to measure or tailoring, the options are almost endless. Bring along your design when you come to see us.

Our experienced tailors

From Hoi An With Love

Hoi An, where our tailors are based, have been famous as a place to get suits from, for a long time. Not many other regions in Viet Nam or elsewhere in Asia that would have a group of tailors specialised in all type of body shapes. They would normally have experience only tailoring clothes for the local people. Out of 10 clients we talked to, about 8 of them would have been there, experienced it and loved it. Or have family and friends that told them about it.

We hand pick our team of tailors who are among the best in Hoi An. And to make sure we have all their dedications, we have our own factory, and our teams only focus on working for our New Zealand operation.

Experience is key

Each experienced tailor we pick is specilised in their own field, so we 5 teams each focus on jacket, trousers, shirts, women wear, and quality control respectively. And with the amount of tourists that came through Hoi An, each of them must have done between 4,000 to 10,000 suits before they can joint our team.

In New Zealand you would not have got many tailor that can claim this sort of experience, given the small population and how expensive bespoke suits are here. So you will be in good hands.

Quick turn around time

In the utmost urgency, an order can be completed within a week or so. Once an order is sent from our head office in Auckland, the purchasing team will source the fabrics and send it over to production teams within a day. It take our master tailors within an hour to cut suit patterns and past it onto the senior tailor teams to sew it together. This process will take about 4-5 hours. The shirts and trousers team will be doing the same thing at their end but this is often faster than suit jacket. Our quality control team will come in to check and if there is no adjustments, it is good to go. We use DHL express and pay a high shipping cost, but normally it would leave Hoi An on Tuesday and arrive in Auckland on Thursday the same week.

Of course, with our backlog of work, and to be conservative and not over promised, our standard time frame would be 4-6 weeks, or urgent orders we would commit to 2-3 weeks.

 

Cameron Jones’ Suit

The story of how we managed to create a great suit for actor Cameron Jones (Shortland Street series)  without him being in the country, and within 3 weeks.

Cameron Jones

  1. 3 weeks or so ago Cam’s agent in NZ contacted us asking if we could create a suit for him, given his special circumstances and other tailors in town had thrown in their towels.
  2. He is in the State, and is needing the suit for his upcoming film premiere.
  3. In cases like this, we would often send out instructions to get measured up by themselves or with the help of friends or a local tailor. This didn’t work this time.
  4. Didn’t give up, we organised a time to skype with him, and walk him (and his friend who measured him) over the steps.
  5. We got all organised, ship the suit from Viet Nam to Auckland, and his agent picked up and bring it along with her to the US. That happened within 2 weeks.

Here are the great results. He was over the moon with it and sure will come back for more, now that we have his measurement on file.

Cameron Tones

Cameron Tones

Cameron Tones

To recap:

 

  • If you are out of town, we still can help. If we see your measurements and something is not quite right, we will organise something else until we can get to a measurement that is appropriate.
  • If you are running out of time, don’t give up yet. Talk to us as we have managed to help many of out clients, sometime in as little as 5 days.